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Topic: CHALLENGE 1/10/2011: Unportraitable
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Subject: CHALLENGE 1/10/2011: Unportraitable
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 12:15am

CHALLENGE: Unportraitable

http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/challenge_item.asp?id=1191 - Once again , you have a randomly generated palette. Use at least 4 of the colours shown below to create a portrait.

Optional Bonus Challenge: Use all the colours!

Canvas Size - Exactly 137 x 114. Either horizontal or vertical.
Colours - Min 4; Max 9. Use only colours from this palette:



Transparency - No.
Animation - Optional.


CHALLENGE RULES

  • Participants have until this upcoming Sunday at midnight (12AM Pacific) to /pixels/submit_icons.asp'>submit their entry (strict). Don't forget to check the 'Submit to weekly challenge' checkbox.
  • Only new pixels allowed.
  • Open to all members.
  • Posting WIPs in this thread or in new threads in the /forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=8'>WIP section is highly encouraged, but ONLY SUBMIT YOUR FINAL ART.

CHALLENGE JUDGING

  • Every Sunday at midnight (12AM Pacific) the previous week's entries are judged.
  • Every week a new voting poll will be posted for previous week's entries.
  • Winner announced the following week.

CHALLENGE PRIZES/GOODIES

  • Top three finishers will receive an award displayed in your PJ gallery profile for all to see and envy.
  • Top finisher gets to call the following week's challenge...sweet.
  • 'Participation' ribbons will be given for all who enter.
  • No matter what happens you get challenged :)

CHALLENGE VOTING

/pixels/poll.asp?id=1224' name='vote' target='_blank'>Vote now for your favorite pixelart in this week's challenge!

CHALLENGE AWARDS

The Unportraitable pixel art challenge is complete and we have three new champions. This week's challenge awards go to the following pieces:

/pixelart/58805.htm' target='_blank' class='winner1'>E.A.Poe 9 random colours by /p/21348.htm' target='_blank'>Mis-BUG
/pixelart/58859.htm' target='_blank' class='winner2'>Self Portrait 2011 by /p/6136.htm' target='_blank'>Blackbeltdude
/pixelart/58823.htm' target='_blank' class='winner3'>"Gaja em 9 cores aleatórias"- Weekly Challenge by /p/17621.htm' target='_blank'>Jinn


Thanks so much to all who took the time to vote and participate in the challenge!

/pixelart/58919.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Fragile existance. by /p/11318.htm' target='_blank'>Reo
/pixelart/58848.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Predator by /p/18121.htm' target='_blank'>Paulo Peres
/pixelart/58830.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>datdood by /p/2740.htm' target='_blank'>manxana
/pixelart/58845.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>A Cut, A Smile, An Eye by /p/25741.htm' target='_blank'>Stratus-Stereo
/pixelart/58905.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Ramona Flowers by /p/25118.htm' target='_blank'>Adcrusher524
/pixelart/58841.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>anime-styled portrait by /p/26953.htm' target='_blank'>alcheim
/pixelart/58897.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Bellowing Battle Roar by /p/3178.htm' target='_blank'>Arthus
/pixelart/58893.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>My Room Needs to Get Painted by /p/31234.htm' target='_blank'>Scattle
/pixelart/58878.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Lord Demon/Vampire/Whatever by /p/28538.htm' target='_blank'>RedSnake
/pixelart/58797.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>It's a Bird!!! by /p/22337.htm' target='_blank'>TropicalSnowcone
/pixelart/58922.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Ram by /p/31066.htm' target='_blank'>rautiocination
/pixelart/58822.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Portrait of Lechat by /p/31084.htm' target='_blank'>Mochimandias
/pixelart/58916.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Me, Myself and Andy Warhol by /p/27976.htm' target='_blank'>Cilein
/pixelart/58879.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Glow inthe light by /p/23878.htm' target='_blank'>Clovvach
/pixelart/58917.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Cyclops. by /p/11318.htm' target='_blank'>Reo
/pixelart/58880.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Unpormeatable! by /p/26558.htm' target='_blank'>MicKo
/pixelart/58831.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Angry Bender by /p/29919.htm' target='_blank'>Dweller
/pixelart/58850.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Tony Curtis Portrait by /p/16040.htm' target='_blank'>ShonenAiGuy
/pixelart/58921.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Cyber Genie by /p/18267.htm' target='_blank'>fawful
/pixelart/58935.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Unselfportrait by /p/23265.htm' target='_blank'>Manupix
/pixelart/58796.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Transcendence by /p/30853.htm' target='_blank'>FelipeFS
/pixelart/58906.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Unportraitable Van Pelt by /p/21770.htm' target='_blank'>Guest666
/pixelart/58883.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Masks by /p/29384.htm' target='_blank'>Kiwi
/pixelart/58868.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>The Skull King by /p/30024.htm' target='_blank'>luisniel
/pixelart/58908.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Shiny Red Pirate Coat by /p/18617.htm' target='_blank'>Photocopier
/pixelart/58896.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>I'm trippin bananas by /p/20767.htm' target='_blank'>Chaoxys
/pixelart/58811.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Marisa Tomei by /p/20306.htm' target='_blank'>dpixel
/pixelart/58826.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Green Portrait by /p/2943.htm' target='_blank'>T-Mind
/pixelart/58802.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>This is my contest entry by /p/29083.htm' target='_blank'>Thehawkz
/pixelart/58825.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Favourite Astronaut by /p/30024.htm' target='_blank'>luisniel
/pixelart/58888.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>smile baby by /p/29004.htm' target='_blank'>zerolevel007
/pixelart/58886.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>You Will Never Find Your Father... by /p/8537.htm' target='_blank'>[thUg]
/pixelart/58911.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Unportrait da zombie by /p/31195.htm' target='_blank'>repstyle
/pixelart/58847.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>B0oO ava by /p/19046.htm' target='_blank'>Batlorder
/pixelart/58894.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Why would you by /p/30437.htm' target='_blank'>H|F
/pixelart/58915.htm' target='_blank' class='winnerx'>Un(self)portraitable by /p/27002.htm' target='_blank'>eliotfellow



Replies:
Posted By: Justincrdibl
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 2:29am
Hmm interesting colors...
Here's what all the 1:1 mixes look like in case anyone is wondering



Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 10:28am
It must be a human portrait or can I do a imaginary character? And it must be in a style close to reality or also more toony-stylized?


Posted By: Mis-BUG
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 11:36am
I don't know if I'm going to submit this, but I always wanted to make a E.A. Poe portrait with fancy colours... :P




Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 11:45am
Man, post that, it looks great.

I'll probably join this one. Seems interesting enough. =]


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 12:01pm
Yes it does.mad skills

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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 12:39pm
@kiwi, In general art terms a 'portrait' is generally a chest and up (roughly) picture. With an emphasis on the face.

In pixelart the term 'portrait' is commonly a game development term to show a sprite's appearance in more detail for the player's mind to 'add details' to a game.
PORTRAIT ../files/icons/full/gaia_portrait.gif">   of the SPRITE ../files/icons/full/gaia__r161414511.gif">

I did not have anything to do with this challenge but I think some variations of the portrait idea is cool provided that it remains a face/expression kind of thing.

imo,
not a portrait ../files/icons/full/helena.gif"> ../files/icons/full/spandex4.png"> ../files/icons/full/raven_blackheart.png">
portraits ../files/icons/full/david_brent.gif"> ../files/icons/full/feralbeastportrait.png"> ../files/icons/full/fejer_finite.gif"> ../files/icons/full/jakeselfportraitfinal.gif"> ../files/icons/full/imaj2.gif">
my fave gallery portrait ../files/icons/full/ega_howardphilips.png">

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Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 1:27pm


TURBANTURBANTURBAN
TURBANTURBANTURBAN
TURBANTURBANTURBAN
TURBANTURBANTURBAN

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Posted By: cure
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 2:02pm
@fawful: take a look at human skulls and note the protrusion of the maxilla. also, your eye sockets seem to flare upwards at the ends.

@mis-BUG: submit! looks great.


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 4:08pm
I see

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Posted By: Paulo Peres
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 5:54pm
WIP!
 


Posted By: FelipeFS
Date Posted: 11 January 2011 at 4:26am
My entry is done! I'm thing about make another.
Took all day to be done (including the idea and the process).

Transcedence



Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 11 January 2011 at 12:13pm
skull has been modified a bit




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Posted By: Hiuru
Date Posted: 11 January 2011 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by FelipeFS


My entry is done! I'm thing about make another.
Took all day to be done (including the idea and the process).




WOW. I love this so so so so much!


Posted By: cure
Date Posted: 11 January 2011 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by fawful





edit:


feel your cheekbones. they probably poke out most below your eye sockets and slightly towards the sides. remember that the eye sockets flow into the cheekbones, they're very interrelated. nose was a bit thin, and the separation between the ball of the nose and the nostril seemed extreme. ear looked a little long and low to me. there's a somewhat significant indention (in most folks) above the top of the nose, between the tops of the eye sockets. the chin protruded quite drastically so i moved it in some. he lacked lips. due to the prominent chin, as well as the placement of the indention in the upper lip, the maxilla still seemed recessed. trapezius muscles were underdeveloped and the shoulders seemed to slope off too suddenly.

Turning out nice though, you're making good use of the palette



Posted By: FelipeFS
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 2:47am
Thank you, Hiuru.


Posted By: orenshtiv
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:38am
Thought to give it a try ..
but my computer is stupid so it was really hard to make
I miss paint ;__;
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/58816.htm


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Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 9:46am
I've had a look at what you've done and it's really helped a lot.I couldn't see the problems until you pointed them out.



there's bound to be somethings still wrong but it's a noticeable improvement


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Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 10:46am
@Jalonso: Thank you so much! I didn't expect such a big and complete reply :D, thank you.
Anyway my doubts are gone, and here is my WIP:



Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 12:09pm
Someone needs inspiration?
http://www.bernardpras.fr/ - Bernard Pras (slow loading, click Galerie then 1999-2000 for the most iconic pieces)
http://www.victormolev.com/portrait/portrait1.htm - Victor Molev

@ Kiwi: looks interesting, but you have a bad workflow!
Block out basic shapes > color and shade according to light source > detail and refine (includes textures, dithering, AA).
The shape and shading of the face are still very off, so your effort on the beard and hair might be wasted if you have to redo them.
Also take care of dithering, with this incredibly contrasted palette it will be searing. See how Mis-Bug didn't dither the face at all.

Did the Masked Cucumber grow a beard? sorry XD





Posted By: Mochimandias
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 12:28pm
This is my submission for the challenge
What do you think? it´s my first portrait too ^ ^
I need more practice, but I enjoyed a lot doing this!



Posted By: cure
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 1:36pm
looks good, has some strong http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=8110.msg92434#msg92434 - banding though (especially along the top)


Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 2:04pm
@Manupix: About the searing dithering, I wanted it, I wanted to make a piece pretty hard to look at XD
I also like the shape of the nose, but I have to change something inside. I also have to change the lips, because now I see they're so verily off XD


Posted By: Mochimandias
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 2:08pm
Thanks! you´re right... have to fix that and the preview... 


Posted By: Adcrusher
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 3:47pm


Romana from Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World. Still a WIP


Posted By: RedSnake
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 4:08pm


Here's my WIP! I call him the Flamboyant Lord :D
I don't know if I should add dithering to the skin.. And disregard the hat, I just filled it with random colors!


Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 5:30pm
I'll take the opportunity to practice portrait from life > autoportrait.
Step 1: sketches.

<1     <2

1: today's; to compare with 2 = last years for the http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/challenge_item.asp?id=1179 - Fibonacci Faces challenge . None of these look like me, but surprisingly mixing the three does! 0.0

  < mix

I might pixel from that, but I'll sketch more anyway. Practicepracticepractice!

Adcrusher: looks good, something looks a bit off with the eyes position, the nose shape too, and shading on the left side cheek / cheekbones. I can't point what precisely.

Redsnake: no dithering, this palette can't stand it! But you need to give volume to that face with shading: it's all flat now. Use references, yourself in the mirror, have someone pose, anything.
No prob with the hat colors I think.


Posted By: Paulo Peres
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:01pm
Good portrait studies, Manupix.


Posted By: almostpeaceful74
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 7:45pm
Love the challenge! Anyway I thought I'd take the chance to pay tribute to one of the best (and most underaprreciated) cartoons ever.
here's my WIP

I'm a bit suspicious that I've gone dithering-crazy, but it seems alright...
Let me know if i'm wrong lol


Posted By: Adcrusher
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 8:01pm
I'm not quit sure what's going on. Either that's his back and he's spinning his head around or a really weird chest. Both ways it looks kind of funky, do you have a reference? And I think you did go overboard with the dithering. Personally, I think you should only dither at the very end when you have done all you can with the colors you have. So fix the body and it will look a lot better.


Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 10:29pm
Lot of cool stuff going on!! This is an exciting challenge. Here's what I've got so far but I need a little advice to finish it up, I don't know what it needs but I know it needs something! Advice/crit?



It's a self-portrait, here's my http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af23/eliotfellow/Photoon2011-01-08at2113.jpg - reference .


Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 10:42am
eliotfellow: looks good, but I think you made a common mistake in your choice of a ref with very diffuse light. It makes it very hard to draw a good shading and volume when the ref doesn't have them.

Anyway, I don't recognize the contour of your face, and you should show some forehead betwenn those hair strands.


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 12:22pm

finished?


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Posted By: alcheim
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 5:20pm
Just finished my entry for this. However my entry isn't showing up in the weekly challenge gallery. Is there something wrong with it?



http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/58841.htm




Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 8:58pm
step 2: more sketches, different angle (not easy to make self-portraits other than facing!). Again, 2 tries that don't look like me, and a mix that does a little more. Uncanny!




step 3: start pixelling, blocking out shapes and basic shading.



Proportions are a bit off; I can't say I like the color use but I don't think I can do better.


Fawful: the shading doesn't really look like the actual effect of a light-source on an actual volume. With light coming from above as dark eye sockets indicate, there wouldn't be that highlight on the chin, the chin and jaw underside (= lower half) would be dark, the lower lip would cast a shadow on the chin (it always does), the forehead would cast a shadow on the nose bridge, etc. Use refs!

alcheim: the dithering in the mouth makes it undecided: lip or tongue? The chin is very pointy, and the right side (ours) cheek / cheekbone line looks a bit off, by a very few pixels probably. The hair would cast more shadow on the forehead.




Posted By: alcheim
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 9:50pm
thanks for the tips. i'll fix them up shortly.


Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 10:31pm
@fawful:


@eliotfellow: Your piece looks wayyy more androgynous than the ref. some tonal change using perhaps the light green might help.

@Manu (and generally): The peachy colour really is the perfect intermediate. the pale green + light purple are fairly similar value wise so they mix quite well, even using dither. I edited yours too, lightened it a bit. The cyan does seem the most unpaletteable x_x


I had a little go at it earlier, dimensions are different and the colours may be different slightly:



Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 13 January 2011 at 10:50pm
Damn, Manu, you're old.

And also amazing at pencil drawing. I found http://files.myfrogbag.com/qe1mq0/autoportr%201x2x3%20bd100.jpg - this one to be simply awesome. Great work there man.


Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 5:41am
Jeremy: thanks! I really want to avoid using the light brown as main skin color, it's off by just the wrong dose (too much to be natural, not enough to be deliberate crazy). And I found the perfect excuse to be green! ;)

Lucas: stfu. And thanks! XD


Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 10:48am
@Manupix
I like the abstract coloring better too, great sketches there too! A self portrait never even crossed my mind when thinking about this one, I tried some sketches earlier - it's a brilliant way to practice drawing, you know where you're going wrong way more acutely.

@Fawful
The headdress is fantastic, but the face is still letting it down, the chin looks like its dislocated off to the left, flattening the piece (the cheek and chin lighting might need touched to help with this too, I don't think you need more than one highlighting color really here). That and the eyes sockets, even if there are to be no eyes in them they look unfinished being just a solid band of black, check Cure's great edit again for ideas. The headdress and color usage is lovely, go the extra bit now and do yourself justice!


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Posted By: Photocopier
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 3:06pm

C+C guys? I'm not really sure what I want to do for the background yet either...


Posted By: Guest666
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 4:19pm

My WIP of Hunter Van Pelt

ref http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/095/a/d/Jumanji_Van_Pelt_by_Garvals.jpg - http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/095/a/d/Jumanji_Van_Pelt_by_Garvals.jpg


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 6:21pm


changed some stuff.The eyes still need revisiting


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Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by Guest666

My WIP of Hunter Van Pelt ref http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/095/a/d/Jumanji_Van_Pelt_by_Garvals.jpg - http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/095/a/d/Jumanji_Van_Pelt_by_Garvals.jpg

That looks awesome. Please finish it. :P


Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 14 January 2011 at 9:31pm


That's it for tonight (step 4). That's pretty difficult for me. I see many things are off but I can't tell how. And I look like a madman!
Pixelled a bg to take a rest from the stressful stuff. ;)


Photocopier: awesome cloth, the face looks flat by comparison, as if they didn't share the same light source. Also why does the eye patch string cross his face?

Guest666: great!


Update:





Posted By: IEvangeline
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 7:46am
*kicks at the ground shyly* Hiya, this is my first post to PJ and my first submission. :3 I hope it looks alright, I don't handle criticism well but I'll try. :3



Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 10:08am


Fixin' stuff.


IEvangeline: welcome! =)
Looks good, did you use a reference?
The hair could use more shading / highlights, it's hard to feel its volume. Are the green patches supposed to be waves?

You'll find C&C is the driving force of PJ, it's a wonderful motivation and progress tool that benefits all. You're expected to give it too! Beware, it's addictive ;)


Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 11:59am
@Manupix: The only small problem I see is that you look sad XD, try not to stress too much the small shadow near to the upper lip(I'm not sure the focus of the problem is there, but that's what I would do)
@Guest666:AWESOME I LOVE IT :D

anyway, I've re-done my work.

Better? I think so, but the light blue part needs revision.

Edit: Version 2


Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 12:23pm
@Manu, coming along nicely, and thanks for your critique (again!). I definitely like the red background better because it has a cool effect with the green, the push-and-pull thing. But I'm not sure I like the cyan clouds. . . they feel a little jarring and distracting to me. Everything else comes together nicely except that, I think.

You were definitely right about picking a poor reference pic, but it's too late now. I guess I picked it because I know my hair won't look that good again for quite some time, ha ha.

@IEvangeline: Get used to crit, honey! That's what it's all about! I like the face, but I would suggest adding some texture to the hair. It's kind of uncertain right now. And welcome to PJ!


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 1:04pm



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Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 1:18pm

Final version. What do you think?


Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 2:15pm
Here he go !

I try my first challenge on pixel joint !

And i'm happy with it

So i give my portrait :



and a version with 5 colors :



Posted By: Guest666
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 2:50pm
I'm not sure about it :


@Repstyle : It has some banding, but OMG great idea.



Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:06pm
@fawful
I'm so glad you kept at this, both great edits, looking a LOT more refined now, the work on the chin and eyes makes a huge difference!

@guest666
I love this character, and your job of him - excellent pixelwork

@IEvangeline
Welcome! Looking good so far, the bands of light on the hair could do with a little more detail/shape to them, blur your eyes looking at some nice manga hairstyles for ideas maybe? Crit is never meant negatively, even if it sometimes sounds that way - we're all just looking to help eachother do the best we can, and as soon as we stop listening to criticism we stop improving, so it's all good really! :)

@Manupix
It's been great so far seeing your workflow, looking good. I agree about the bright clouds, the bottom of your neck looks a little rough compared to the face too I think.


Here's my WIP so far,

I'm afraid it might be too busy and unreadable. Looking at it the dark areas are still a bit too rough too.. A little bit of Andy Warhol inspiration going on here, he was my first thought on seeing the palette for the challenge!

EDIT:
@repstyle
Woah! I love it!

EDIT 2:
I worked on it some more, tidying the shape and dithering a bit more readability into it





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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:12pm
omg! everything is so terrific o.O


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Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:27pm
@Guest666 :
Thanks man, but i don't understand what you mean by "banding", sorry i'm new at pixel art (in fact this is my 3rd piece in pixel art).
Nice work on the jumanji's hunter !

@Cilein :
Thanks bro. Nice "art deco" style.

@kiwi :
psychedelic

@misbug:
outch

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Mochimonda :
Miaou, grrr like it




Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:43pm
Cilein: You rule, I love it! Epic idea!
NOW LET'S HAVE SEX.


Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by repstyle

i don't understand what you mean by "banding"


http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=8110.0 - Check out this whole thread but first read the post that starts with 'Banding Primer' about half way thru first page.


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Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:54pm
@jalonso : I just read it but being French words escape me ...


Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 5:56pm
Updated:



Decided to get psychedelic with it, hee hee. Played with the face a bit, not sure if it's much better; I'll continue to mess around with it until the deadline. I used onek's http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/50115.htm - amazing 1px font for the text. Hopefully he'll give me permission to use it before the deadline, if not I'll figure something out.

Anyways. . . more suggestions, please? I'm not sure I have much of a chance since folks have already submitted some really awesome stuff but it's a great challenge.


Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 5:58pm
Update;
current   older oldest
Here is where I'm at now, side by side to see changes. Its looking more human and more like me (was that contradictory? :P) now, I think the dithering has helped with readability, I was relying on the darkest color far too much before. It's amazing what you notice on taking a break and returning to something.




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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 7:15pm
@ member_profile.asp?PF=27697&FID=1 - Cilein, Current is great, try coloring the bottom half of each iris so that it pierces you, mhmmmm

@ member_profile.asp?PF=30822&FID=1 - repstyle




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Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 7:15pm


Thanks for the good points people!
Not sure I'll keep that cheek texturing.

Great stuff everyone!
Cilein, lovely concept! Yes a bit noisy and dark. Dithering with this palette is extremely risky!!! I'd recommend limiting it strictly to couples of near colors (dark green and blue for instance), and think light when you do it: some transitions where light is tangent need softness, others need sharpness.
The mouth doesn't need the black outline all around, and the lower lip shadow is missing.

Repstyle: le banding c'est quand tu as des paquets de segments parallèles accolés, c'est vilain parqu'on perçoit un grand rectangle. Tu en as dans ta ligne d'horizon oblique, et un peu ailleurs aussi.
Jamais de jpeg en pixel art!!!!. Png ou gif. J'espère que tu as gardé un original propre, sinon tu es bon pour tout recolorer manuellement! ;)  Certains serveurs d'images convertissent automatiquement mais ça n'a pas l'air d'être ton cas.

Sorry guys, just explaining banding and warning against jpeg.


Edit: bitten beaten by a beetle! XD

Edit2: oui chef!


Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 7:27pm
Originally posted by Manupix

  Sorry guys, just explaining banding and warning against jpeg.


Vous êtes un n00b total pour dire désolé pour expliquer pixelart à d'autres avec des problèmes de communication. C'est pourquoi Pixeljoint existe.

Sorry guys, just explaining to Manupix that he's a loser


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Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 7:36pm
oh god i want to make a bad pun so bad right now

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Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 8:02pm
I like it how I can understand that sentence just fine without having ever studied French in my whole life. Yay for being a native Portuguese speaker.

I also like how I can understand everything else without taking English classes, but that's thanks to videogames and the internet, and not how similar my first language is to it, so it's pretty unrelated.


Posted By: Souly
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 8:48pm



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Posted By: cure
Date Posted: 15 January 2011 at 9:34pm
daaaayum souly that's hot. great use of the blue as a creepy under-lighting


Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 2:00am
@jalonso :
Really, thank you for this explanation with example on my piece as reference.

@Manupix :
Merci pour la traduction c'est carrément plus clair depuis que tu as dit "paquets de segments parallèles accolés, c'est vilain parqu'on perçoit un grand rectangle".
Tu es français ?

So, i'm not enough good to see this kind of mistakes but i'll try to fix all that i see and post it soon.

EDIT :

If i get it :


EDIT 2 :
In fact, "b" and "c" generate perspective so it's getting a RIGHT for me.

... i see banding everywhere now !



Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 3:51am
Been trying to fix things based on the crit, and tried another few ways of blending the colors/their edges, I'm still undecided which way to go on it, I've definitely needed this practice.

#1  #2 #3 #4

#4 Is the current version, I like this best of these tweaks. I've tried to use the dithering better now to differentiate soft and hard shadows too Manupix, thanks for that advice. And thank you jalonso - adding in some shine and lighter color to the pupil and iris definitely de-flattened the eyes!

@Souly
I love it!! Where did that come out of? (imagination, based on a ref etc?)



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Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 5:29am
@repstyle: without context it's hard to say whether those are banded or not. banding often occurs from bad/non-existent AA. With more obvious colours:

That took longer than expected to make, hopefully you can apply that to your work D:

i see banding everywhere now !

super! :D


Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 6:13am
Well, well, well ...

I re-worked on my piece to fix misatke (AA and banding) stuffs but i'm not shure to get it fine ...

And i added some stuff



@Jeremy : Thank you for more explanation (in french ^^ too)

@all : my apologies for turning this forum into a noob's lesson


EDIT : I've done a 7 colors version (probably the final version:






Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 8:07am
that is fantastic,I am deeply impressed that this is only your third piece of pixel art.

a winrar is you


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Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 8:36am
@fawful :
I'm new in pixel art but not at art.
I'm a concept artist, illustrator with some experiences so i think that gives me  facilities to do and enjoy pixel art (my website: http://www.repstyleart.com - . ).

And i'm motivated by the challenge and the current video game industry can need more pixel artist to satisfy the little-screen's audience.

And it's fun to see what we can represent with only fews colors and in a so little size




Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 9:29am
Originally posted by repstyle

@all : my apologies for turning this forum into a noob's lesson


@all, the forum and this challenge thread is for help and ideally a lesson for all. We like it and encourage it.

@repstyle, there is a lot that could be fixed and could be technically better but take it slow and develop techniques as you work on pieces. Unlike traditional art styles pixelart considering its small art with few colors has a lot of complexity and technicalities.


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Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 9:39am
Nicely put jalonso, it's about the journey not the end with most things - as soon as you stop travelling you stop improving, and the core concepts are often the easiest to forget about yet most important.

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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 9:46am
@Cilein, you totally got what I meant about the eyes but I say be more graphic, dramatic and bold about it. 

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Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 10:59am
How could i submit my piece http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixels/challenges.asp - here for the challenge ?


Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 11:37am
repstyle: just submit as usual (Gallery / Submit pixel art) and don't forget to check Submit to weekly challenge at page bottom.
You'll also have to make a preview piece 100x100 px max.



Posted By: Photocopier
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 11:56am

Tried to fix suggestions, any last minuite advice? still not entirely sure about background idea


Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 12:21pm
Eh, help!

Okay. . . I've got a last-minute dilemma and I don't know what to do. I've copied the colors exactly from the palette for the challenge, but every time I put my piece through the checker all of the colors fail. They're just a little off and I don't know what the deal is! I've done all I know how to preserve the colors. Does photobucket alter them at all? Or is there a problem with the program(s) I am using, Pixen and/or Paintbrush?

Here's the image:



Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 12:28pm
Don't worry about it, if you submit it here and the colours are still wrong I'll fix them for you. Only if you avoid using Onek's font though :P


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Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 12:42pm
Whatcha got against onek's font? Ha ha.

If you can swap the colors quickly and easily, I'd be eternally grateful. I know I could do it no problem on a number of programs. (That I don't have.)

Thaaaank you Skamocore.


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 12:48pm
are you saving it as .png from MSpaint?

because it'll change the colours ever so slightly


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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 12:52pm
Perhaps the colour issue has something to do with using a mac, and therefore having a different colour space. I'm not too sure though, colour spaces confuse me.

But, like I said, if the colours are similar enough when you submit it, I'll be able to just change them over the to the right ones.


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Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 12:54pm
my post doesn't appear on the submission
erf ... damn time difference between FR and US ...



Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 1:01pm
@repstyle



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Posted By: repstyle
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 1:07pm
Thx jalonso and i've already done  but maybe too late because i don't see my submission in the Weekly Challenge submissions ... I was waiting for how to submit because i didn't get it but it'll be for the next time 


Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 1:19pm
Maybe that's it. Also it is a gif, not a png. (Maybe that one on the board is a png but I put the gif through the checker just now and it's still bad.) I'll be submitting it shortly. Thanks again.

stupid computer


Posted By: eliotfellow
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 1:21pm
You've got to wait for it to pass through public queue and be checked for the specifications. Don't worry, if it's good it'll be there before the time's up.


Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 1:28pm


ok so i think this is the final version

however i am not sure so CC please


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Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 1:28pm
@jalonso
by "be more graphic, dramatic and bold about it" were you referring to how I did the eyes? I've blanked, not sure if I prefer #2 or #4 of mine in terms of style. This has been a great challenging challenge, I've took a lot from it :D

@Photocopier
maybe a simple design of squares and such, you don't want to take from your pic but the blue looks a bit lonely. Patch is definitely better placed now, and the folds in the clothing are great. Kudos too for being able to use the cyan color well!

@fawful
Looking smexcellent. Take the shine on the cheeks (lightest highlight) and shift it up a few pixels perhaps to take the thick bands appearance away. Maybe drop that same color from the adams apple, the lighting to me suggests it wouldn't be as bright and shiny. The shoulder on the bottom left looks a tad sparse, some dithering or detail would de-flatten it. It's a struggle to find things though, this piece has come so far (and all in the right direction) :D

EDIT: eek! The checker link is dead/not loading for me, I wanted to double check my palette's correct..


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Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 2:10pm


Is this too much? ;P

Fawful: agree with Cilein. It has improved lots, but it still looks like shading was generally done out of your mind and not out of some ref.

@all: whoever will come out with the right answers about those maddening color change issues is a hero. As far as I know, color spaces change the way colors display, not their actual values unless you convert an image from one space into another. If some software does that without warning its author must be tarred and feathered. Similarly the png display issue supposedly is, ah, a display issue. Grrrr.


Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 2:45pm
@Cilein, You have 59 colors o.O
eye edit:

@Manu, just use cyan on the right side of face and see if it works. Lightsource at ear level and strong.

@all, Hatch apparently forgot to update the checker, please bear with us.


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Posted By: Cilein
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 3:11pm
Sweet moses I'll get right on that!

Edit; sorted now (I'm pretty certain). I used photoshop to make this piece, I wonder where the color information got lost.. too many re-saves of new versions? On the plus side it's more colorful now that the palettes straight.

http://www.pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/me_dark_4_4.png

I see what you mean by your edit, I worked the brighter eyes in without changing direction/mood I wanted, here's the final now;



http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/58916.htm#c332160 - link

Edit: the boards ahead of my time, and it hasn't been approved yet don't forget about me! :)


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Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 3:57pm
finished

http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/58921.htm - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/58921.htm

i found a pretty big anatomy problem and fixed it


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Posted By: Manupix
Date Posted: 16 January 2011 at 4:42pm


Thanks a lot jal, that was decisive! I didn't put the source as low as you suggested, because the whole piece and refs are lit from top right, and I can't change all that now.
I don't think I'm going with the reptile version either, it would take a whole more lot of work on those scales.


Cilein: you must have auto-aa enabled on at least one tool: brush, eraser, bucket, or a selection tool. Check jal's post up there.


Posted By: Souly
Date Posted: 17 January 2011 at 10:44pm
Originally posted by Cilein


@Souly
I love it!! Where did that come out of? (imagination, based on a ref etc?)



This video by Alex Pardee pretty much sums up my creative process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-JAp2HHntA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-JAp2HHntA

"I wish I could credit my imagination fully for coming up with the monsters I make, but when it comes down to it, it's just good 'ol fashion research. You just gotta get out there, find them lure them out and take reference photos for later use for scribbling."


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