Collabs are back!


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Don't go frantically grabbing for your calendar—it's not April 1st. Yes, after a long two-year wait, collabs will be allowed into the PixelJoint gallery again. 

Why the sudden reversal after so long? Read on...

Collabs were originally disabled as a temporary solution while some changes were made to the site to properly accommodate them. Unfortunately, the changes haven't been able to be made as quickly as we'd have hoped. It now looks like they're still a long way off, and having reevaluated the situation, we've decided that a new solution is needed.

To minimize confusion and conflict, we've prepared a set of rules specifically for collab submissions. Please read over these points carefully:

  • No collab accounts. We feel that these will ultimately create more problems than they solve. Existing collab accounts will be kept and their pieces re-enabled, but we ask that the artists who own them no longer use them.
  • No multiple submissions. All artists involved must decide on a single one of them who will submit the piece. There must be unanimous agreement.
  • All artists involved must give their consent and be properly attributed. This is supremely important. If even a single artist retracts his/her consent at any time, the piece will be immediately sent back for revision. If there's any doubt as to the consent of all parties when the piece is submitted, it will be sent back.
  • Collaborators should be linked to. If they have a PixelJoint profile, link to it. If not, link to their profile on another site—wherever you think they're most active.
  • No big community collabs with many participants. We're relying on squishy common sense for this rather than a firm number
  • Who did what should be explained in the description as clearly as possible
  • No collabs in weekly challenges!

We want to hear your feedback, particularly regarding the rules and potential problems they don't address. Please let us know what you think.



Posted by Hatch @ 2/4/2010 20:11  |    26

Discussion

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DanielHyaku (Level 4 Button Man) @ 2/9/2010 20:31

 Very nice =)

Should make a special challenge for collabs once in a while, though.


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varuks (Level 1 Rookie) @ 2/8/2010 02:01

 oh. that sounds cool!


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Reo (Level 11 Sensei) @ 2/7/2010 10:57

two or more artist that makes a piece together.


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varuks (Level 1 Rookie) @ 2/7/2010 08:42

 what is a colab?


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jeremy (Level 11 Special Agent) @ 2/7/2010 01:19

 :|

 

Never mind then 


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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 2/7/2010 00:55

yes...yes it was...


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jeremy (Level 11 Special Agent) @ 2/6/2010 21:11

 >.> Was that there before?


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cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/6/2010 20:57

No multiple submissions. All artists involved must decide on a single one of them who will submit the piece. There must be unanimous agreement.


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jeremy (Level 11 Special Agent) @ 2/6/2010 19:38

 So all contributors in the collab can submit? Or just one?


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ellie-is (Level 8 Cannibal) @ 2/6/2010 19:01

 Oh. I see.
Next time he's not that busy, can't he do whatever needs to be done to allow admins to edit the site? XD
Unless he is supposed to be the only one with the power to do it. 


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Hatch (Level 3 Hatchikyu) @ 2/6/2010 14:20

Guys, again, we are completely powerless to make any changes to the site. That's the whole point of this post: we decided to permit collabs despite the fact that we don't have the infrastructure to properly accomodate them, or any way to implement that infrastructure. Only sedge does, and he has been and will be much too busy to do anything about it.

Yes, this means it has a number of downsides, lack of fair award and point distribution among them. But whereas before you had no options for collabs, now you can at least decide for yourself if the downsides are worth it.


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ellie-is (Level 8 Cannibal) @ 2/6/2010 13:35

 I think multiple submissions would be better. Or maybe a way so you can write who else helped while submitting it, and the other person would also be warned when they get favs, comments and etc. Maybe with that even trophies can be shared. And the name of both accounts would appear next to the piece.

Shouldn't be TOO hard to do it. I mean, it would be for some less skilled coders, but for the awesome people who run this amazing site, it should be a piece of cake. You guys rock! [/haha]

:P


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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 2/6/2010 09:58

The way the system is currently set up, yes, just the uploader will get the trophy..


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DawnBringer (Level 10 Maniac) @ 2/6/2010 06:27

Great, I'm too lazy to start anything new...but I can improve any existing piece! Haha.

So if a collab makes the monthly top, does all involved get a trophy or just the uploader? Just the uploader, right?


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skamocore (Level 11 CEO) @ 2/5/2010 23:57

Just to let everyone know, the collab piece that was in the top 4 just before is still in the gallery. It has not been taken down, it has just been resubmitted with its original date (April 2008), instead of being counted as being submitted today.

The piece can still be found here.


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ptoing (Level 7 Underboss) @ 2/5/2010 21:57

Nice to hear.

I would suggest that upon submission you have to enter who else worked on it.
Then everyone who did work on it gets a PM or something and they have to agree to put it up, and when it gets put up everyone who is in that list gets it displayed in their profiles automatically and there would be a list of collab people in the general info.

 

Just automate all that crap, will be easier for all parties involved. 


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cure (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/5/2010 21:11

done. send me a pm or post here if you find any other previously disallowed colabs.


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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 2/5/2010 18:57

About additional webpage layouts to accomadate collab feature: this isn't something that hasn't been discussed by us mods. I've been wanting to add a "collab" tab and "Wip" tab to user profiles since I joined. Only problem is NONE of us have ability to change coding and layout of the site; that responsibility lies on Sedgemonkey, the creator of the site. And he's quite the busy beaver(err, monkey...whatever). So this was mainly put out(finally, if I may add) by one of our new fellow mods Hatch, as we decided we couldn't wait any longer for layout features to be added, and decided we would soldier on, despite the more issues this may cause with submissions, and what not. In fact, as a fair warning, expect us mods to be a bit more harsh, as far as submitted collabs go....


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asukicco (Level 9 Necrophiliac) @ 2/5/2010 17:54

I think this can be done by pointing the collab piece to more than one artist, so the piece belongs to all the artists that made it, and if it win a trophy or something, the achievment is linked in every profile page of the artists that made it.

Also to clean things up we can add one more tab to the profile page, near gallery, comments, buddies and favorites named collabs, which lists every pieces that artist made with other artists ("piece's preview": asukicco @ data in collaboration with user1, user2, user3). This means collabs can be done only by registered members.
 

Don't know if it works and also don't know if it's written in proper, understandable english.


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jeremy (Level 11 Special Agent) @ 2/5/2010 15:40

 Now add the option to fave news posts :p


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Manupix (Level 11 Godfather) @ 2/5/2010 14:35

Grrrreat news! 8D

I understand it's a temporary solution, issues might arise but it's definitely worth the effort.

Fairness towards the participants might require all collab pieces to be excluded from rating and awards.

Might be good to have some automatic distinguishing feature, like a different page color or layout. Green's idea of a box to check and list is good, even though I don't see the necessity of collab accounts, as long as another system exists.

Would be nice to have links in member's pages to all collabs they took part in.

(well, all this of course if within the limits of possible current tweakings of PJ!)

 

And please please please, re-admit this (and others)!!!


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Vertigo-Zero (Level 9 Necrophiliac) @ 2/5/2010 12:58

Possibility to choose (a) collaborator(s) from a member list, so they will automatically appear somewhere above the discription? Wouldn't be too hard IMO. Would be perfect if that gives them the right to edit/delete the picture.


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Onichi (Level 3 Enforcer) @ 2/5/2010 12:24

Always wanted to join in on some collabs here. Ooh-ray!


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Delicious (Level 9 Boss) @ 2/5/2010 09:24

Great news. Definitly looking forward to submitting future collab pieces alongside fellow artists to the Pixel Joint gallery. :)


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Stickman (Level 7 Sheriff) @ 2/5/2010 08:06

Good  one guys. As your still working on the changes on this site to accomodate collabs properly, I think this is a good solution for the meantime.


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greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 2/5/2010 07:42

Not that I'm awesome enough to do a collab any time soon, but it's nice to know the option is there again!

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Maybe should have a nice big [COLLAB] in the title when submitting?

Crazy idea: DO have a collab account, but have the site create it for you. Ok, let me expain. (Tweaking of PJ is going to be required for this.) When you submit a piece you know how there are checkboxes? Right, well add one more: "Collab". Once you click on that you can enter up to (X) names. And once you hit submit PJ will create a new account based on the names you entered. Let's say all the mods went and created a collab, so the new account name would be Team jalBOBHatchSkaLarBlink. Did I make any sense?


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